Minnesota’s gubernatorial candidates made state fraud oversight a focus of their second debate of the week, with Republican House Speaker Lisa Demuth proposing an immediate leadership overhaul and Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar defending her record on the issue.

The debate came amid scrutiny of large-scale abuse of state programs and questions about how it continued without being detected. The issue has become a prominent test of government oversight in the contest to succeed Gov. Tim Walz.

Demuth said fraud had gone unchecked for too long. She pledged that, if elected, she would dismiss every state commissioner on her first day in office and appoint replacements with expertise in their fields. She said the changes were intended to strengthen accountability and transparency and to alter what she described as a culture that allowed fraud.

Klobuchar called Demuth’s proposal “absurd.” She said that after the fraud came to light, she contacted U.S. Attorney Andy Luger to ask what prosecutors needed. According to Klobuchar, Luger said he needed more prosecutors. Klobuchar said she then contacted senior officials at the Justice Department and obtained additional prosecutors for him.

Klobuchar also argued that Walz should have detected the fraud sooner and taken stronger action. Her criticism offered a distinction from the outgoing governor, whose administration’s handling of the scandals has drawn attention as he leaves office. The debate account did not specify the individual programs involved, the amounts at issue or the scale of the prosecutor increase.

The candidates also sparred over political alignment. Klobuchar said Minnesota did not need a governor who would simply follow President Donald Trump. Demuth, in turn, challenged Klobuchar to identify specific policies on which she would differ from Walz. Demuth pointed to Klobuchar’s description of Walz as an “incredible governor” as part of her argument.

The exchange highlighted competing approaches to accountability: Demuth called for replacing the state’s commissioners, while Klobuchar emphasized her account of seeking federal prosecutorial resources and criticized Walz’s past response. Voters were set to choose Walz’s successor on Nov. 3, according to the debate report. The supplied material does not identify the year of that election date, so it does not establish whether the election was upcoming at the time of this report.